De Muzikale Buren

[DaveGlass]

Shame it's not at the right speed but it's pretty frantic as it is.
Is that Eddie Boland lurking?
http://eye.openbeelden.nl/media/685631/ ... e_buren_De
DG

(p.s. if you haven't already explored the EYE sight, I recommend it. Hidden gems from Hughie Mack, Jack Cooper, Billie Ritchie and many more to be found...)

[Steve Massa]

Hi David - Yeah that's Eddie Boland, and DE MUZIKALE BUREN is the Universal comedy THE HOLE IN THE WALL (3/10/1919). Here's a review from the 3/8/1919 Universal Weekly (pg. 33):

"THE HOLE IN THE WALL - Nestor Comedy.
Cast
Prof. Feunotes..................Fred Ardath
His Pupil............................Babe Nathan
Mr. Dobbem......................Bob Vernon
Mrs. Dobbem....................Jane Bernoudy

Dobbem, an artist, and his wife are driven almost frantic by the medley of sound which issue from the apartment of Professor Feunotes, a musician next door. When some pupil is not essaying an instrumental effort others are having theor voices cultivated. When Dobbem appeals to Feunotes to desist the door is slammed in his face. He tries to fight fire with fire by raising a hub-bub in his own apartment, but Feunotes only makes more noise than before. Dobbem finally bores a hole through the wall and tries to play a hose into the neiboring apartment, but Feunotes meets the emergency by stopping the nozzle with a drum-stick. Feunotes telephones for another of his pupils, a trombone player, who arrives in due time. The hose breaks in Dobbem's apartment owing to the pressure and drenches the janitor of the building, who telephones the police sergeant and his trusty men.

Not to be beaten so easily, Dobbem, the artist, goes out and hires the most atrocious band he can find and pays them well to play a blatant serenade beneath the window of his neighbor. The police arrive. The sergeant, at the request of Feunotes, investigates the hole in the wall by sticking his finger into it, only to have Dobbem, who believes it is Feunotes finger, grab it in his teeth. The sergeant immediately orders an attack upon Dobbem's apartment. Dobbem, learning the truth, barricades his door, and while the police are endeavoring to enter he drives a plug into the hole and pastes wallpaper over it. When the police finally break in, Dobbem and his wife and her friend pretend to have been made deaf by the noise of the apartment next door. Not satisfied, the sergeant probes for the hole he previously encountered. Feunotes, on the other side of the wall, with a terrific blow dislodges the plug, which strikes the sergeant full in the ear. He becomes very angry and has a fight with Feunotes, in which Feunotes is finally vanquished. He then orders his men to cart all the musical instruments out of the place, and thus it is that Dobbem and his wife are assured of some peace in the future."

Think this was probably shot earlier and sat on the shelf as in 1919 Bobby Vernon was working at Christie, Fred Ardath for Arrow XLNT Comedies, and Eddie Boland was at Roach. The three were in the 1916 Universal comedy A FAMILY AFFAIR (4/29/16), so HOLE IN WALL was probably made around that time.

Credits I have are:

THE HOLE IN THE WALL (3/10/1919) Nestor. 1 reel. Cast: Bobby Vernon, Fred Ardath, Jane Bernoudy, Babe Nathan, Eddie Boland, Steve Murphy.

This was identified at last year's Mostly Lost Conference. This year's will be July 17th - 19th at the Library of Congress Packard Campus in Culpeper, Va.

[DaveGlass]

Thanks for the bumper reply Mr Massa.
Couldn't of wished for more info than that.
It's a great little comedy too - strangely reminiscent of those early manic French ones.

Wish I could be Mostly Lost in VA this year.
I'll have to be content being mostly lost in Surrey...

DG

[Pasquale Ventura]

DaveGlass
Shame it's not at the right speed

Where did this 18/20fps transfer practice start and why has it become the standard film speed transfer of all the archives around the world?

Pasquale

[Richard M Roberts]

DaveGlass
Shame it's not at the right speed

Where did this 18/20fps transfer practice start and why has it become the standard film speed transfer of all the archives around the world?

Pasquale

A lot of Archivists aren't into comedy.


RICHARD M ROBERTS (or pacing for that matter)

[Pasquale Ventura]

Richard M Roberts
A lot of Archivists aren't into comedy.

RICHARD M ROBERTS (or pacing for that matter)

That explains plenty. As archivist's, basic research will demonstrate the comedy filmmakers undercranked for a specific reason, these comedies are supposed to move fast. It's part of the world the comics live in. Slowing the film down to these slower frames per second destroys the timing of many of the gags, and body motion of the comedians. Has anybody ever told them to transfer silent comedies at 24fps?

Just curious.

Pasquale

[Richard M Roberts]

Richard M Roberts
A lot of Archivists aren't into comedy.

RICHARD M ROBERTS (or pacing for that matter)

That explains plenty. As archivist's, basic research will demonstrate the comedy filmmakers undercranked for a specific reason, these comedies are supposed to move fast. It's part of the world the comics live in. Slowing the film down to these slower frames per second destroys the timing of many of the gags, and body motion of the comedians. Has anybody ever told them to transfer silent comedies at 24fps?

Just curious.

Pasquale

Endlessly!


http://nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f ... r&start=60


But this idiot and historically non-existent concept of "natural speed" or "visually correct" speed continues to be pervasive especially among the European Archives, and it's total nonsense.



RICHARD M ROBERTS

[Joe Migliore]

The link in the post above illustrates what is wrong with that site: A thorough argument is made, with evidence given to support the solidity of the claim, and the thread gets locked off just as it's getting good. Why doesn't that happen when people color in photos of Clara Bow and glue on Lon Chaney's head?