NItrateville Nerdumb Slapping Dept: Trailer: Charley Chase at Hal Roach The Late Silents 1927

[Richard M Roberts]

Hey, it looks like we’ve got an old-fashioned flame war going on here! Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!

Just when Gebert’s self-delusion and protesteth too much blather trying to justify his ridiculous closing of the thread on the Chase 27 set heads to truly silly proportions, then an old oddball nemesis, ol’ AssJazzman, a weird former-friend whose own erratic behavior made me cut off all contact with him in the late-previous century leaving him to try to stalk, attempt to diss, and continue to obsess about me more than a quarter century later(possibly giving him the breaking record to win the “this guy really needs a life” award) pops out his rather unsightly little head. I didn’t even know he was still alive, but perhaps it brings a whiff of nostalgia (is that what I’m smelling, or is it the same old cow manure?).

And you just gotta love their sadly trying to shape some numbers to fit their “facts”, AssJazz says it’s telling that Nitwitvile has 4200+ members as opposed to our 175, telling it is indeed, but not in the way he wants to think. What it really says is very sad when out of those 4200, only handfuls even post on the site, and those posts never get anything like those numbers in hits. Sorry Gebby, you need to clean out that cache’, a lot of that audience bailed on you years ago.

And as to our 175, what that says is that we are indeed a very discriminating clubhouse who doesn’t just let anyone in, we are proud of the low-quantity and high-quality of our membership. It’s a real laugh to hear AssJazz try to twist our requiring the use of real names as a bullying tactic when it is nothing but a guarantee of credibility, our members stand by their words with their names, and it is one of the things we do that is most complimented and admired by the rest of our community.

We don’t allow cowardly posters to hide behind made-up non-de-plumes (like AssJazzman) to come on our site thinking they can spout crap, diss or praise without taking responsibility for it. At SCM, you know from whom you are hearing from, and may judge their words accordingly. Letting the nameless ninnies onto Nitwitvile has always been one of the things that significantly drops the already low credibility of that sorry little site.

And since we are talking about numbers, let’s compare a few in terms of the numbers of hits and readership. For example, out thread on the Chase 27 set currently as I look at it has 54,305 hits, as the Nitwitvile thread on our set has only 7726 (and that’s actually a high number for a Nitwitvile thread, gee Mike, you closed a Popular one there, people actually are seriously interested in our set). Our thread on the SHOULDER ARMS restoration currently has 1236 hits, yours has 676, and it’s an older thread.

Heck, even our thread on this stupidity has 2675, compared to your paltry 120, and most of those are probably linking to you from our thread (you’re welcome Gebby, we actually bring you some business!).

So SCM, that so-called “infrequently active” site by Geb is doing just fine thanks, we have a good, sizeable, informed population of readers who like what we do (and enjoy it when we call out Nitwitvile for its nonsense), and a distinguished membership of informed, intelligent and mature people who know what they’re talking about. Of course, more of Gebert’s desperate delusionality to convince himself right even when subconsciously he knows he’s wrong had to make him term our population my “worshippers”, especially when they are also criticizing him, that's really hilarious.

Hey, I have worshippers! Wow! Even Rift Corbitt, who only agrees with me 2/3rds of the time, you are kneeling at my altar? Hey, if I’m so Godlike you all could toss me a vestal virgin once in awhile. Yeah, I know finding anything either vestal or virginal in this crowd is an extreme improbability (actually Nitwitvile had a virgin for me, but he didn’t want to do it).

That nonsense is even more hilarious as several of the NItwitvile Ninnies line up to lap at Gebbitt’s sneakers in his own flame thread.

Ah well, my boots are spittle-free and my conscience is clear, this one the Gebbit brought upon himself, closing a thread for incivility that was only mostly posted by Ed Watz, one of the nicest and politest people in our community shows nothing but very small pettiness, and all because he probably has been fuming and fussing to himself ever since the Chase set came out and has been getting raves and great words and success and once again, he can’t get that Roberts guy out from under his skin. We knew he wouldn’t overcome his own hypocrisy and small-mindedness and include the Chase set in Nitwitvile’s Best of 2024, even though it obviously deserved to be there (not that it matters to us, as we said, NItwitvile opinions matter little to the populace or sales figures) and he knew it, so his clock got more and more tightly wound as he looked for anything---ANYTHING!—to close the thread on the set and stop even the Nitwits who were praising it.

So he finally overreacted, and it’s obvious that it bothers him still, as per his silly thread today. He can’t even justify it to himself, try as he might, and he sees that others are on to him. Well Mikey, you can stop the discomfort, the sleepless nights, the constipation, by just re-opening the thread, you don’t even have to admit you’re wrong, we all know that anyway. You showed your hand too much today by saying NItwitvile was “used” by people promoting our set. Used? Isn’t the self-announced purpose of Nitwitvile the promotion of vintage film and film history to the World? You just admitted that that isn’t Nitwitviles goal, so it really is just a sorry little site dedicated to massaging the egos of the pitiful few who actually contribute to it, Nitwitvile isn’t actually useful at all.


RICHARD M ROBERTS

[Rift Corbitt]

The 75% of the time refers entirely on our view of Bitrate.

I have not so good eyesight and need to use a LARGE TV for my viewings. Here is a link that nicely sums up why why high bitrate is so important to me: https://ottverse.com/bitrate-vs-resolut ... mpression/

In the link the pics to the 1.5 and 5mbps are exactly my personal experience.

BTW if I'm wrong and you do agree with me then bump that up to 95% :)

[Richard M Roberts]

The 75% of the time refers entirely on our view of Bitrate.

I have not so good eyesight and need to use a LARGE TV for my viewings. Here is a link that nicely sums up why why high bitrate is so important to me: https://ottverse.com/bitrate-vs-resolut ... mpression/

In the link the pics to the 1.5 and 5mbps are exactly my personal experience.

BTW if I'm wrong and you do agree with me then bump that up to 95% :)

Well Rift, I don't really have an opinion on bitrates one way or the other, but I acknowledge that you have good reason to have more concern over them.


RICHARD M ROBERTS

[Richard M Roberts]

Thanks and I get what your saying

You're welcome.

RICHARD M ROBERTS

[Richard M Roberts]

Richard, much like Fox-Movietone News, your work speaks for itself. As I'm fond of saying, thanks to people like you, we can continue to have nice things. Aside from Ben Model, Steve Massa, and a few others, there's not many on N'ville that can make that claim.

You're welcome William.

RICHARD M ROBERTS

[Richard M Roberts]

So the Gebbit decided to try the old foolish ploy of trying to make two wrongs into a right (never works) by actually closing his own thread. Gee, good old American thinking, when it becomes clear everyone can see that you’ve made a mistake, don’t make it right and move on, double down on it! In doing that, he censored himself.

That “Manners” thread was obviously not going to make Gebby look like he was on particularly high ground, especially when the main chimers-in were well-known Roberts axe-grinders like AssJazzman and the ol’ electric fence-pisser cinewhiner Rodney-----what’s his last name? Nocock, Bowlegs? Whatever it is, why do I always hear the sound of “Dueling Banjos” at the mention of it?

Those bozos are not going to up anyone’s credibility scale even a scintilla, Lil’Rodney’s contribution was that I dictate exactly what can and can’t be promoted on the mafia page and to say otherwise is hypocrisy. Well, sorry Lil’ Rodnut, but to say otherwise is actually something you should become more familiar with---the truth.

Not that he would actually be acquainted with the actual running of SCM in any way, but the fact is neither I nor any of my fellow Godfathers Gierucki and Farr do much of any moderating on the site, anyone who is actually a member is free to promote or not promote or say anything about any product on the site. In the decade and a half or so we’ve had SCM running, I think I’ve actually had to apply the editorial scissors exactly twice, and both times it was to delete Slapsticon information not then supposed to be known to the general public. There has been no real reason to do any deleting for the most part, that using your real name thing and keeping the nameless riffraff out seems to work just fine in keeping civility around the place, in fact much better than Nitwitviles opposite practice.

In fact, despite AssJazz’s claim, NItwitvile is in fact a very curated, over-censored, thought-policing and much more controlling place than the mafia, I and the other Godfathers exercise the same right as all of our members in choosing what we personally wish to promote or not promote on SCM, but all in the club may talk about any product they like. I may comment on it, even comment on it in ways the makers of said product don’t want to hear, but no one stops our members from saying anything or bringing anything up.

And for the nonsense accusations that we’ve tossed loads from our joint, I wager the numbers do not compare to NItwitviles own tossing of it’s own members, and when the Gebbit tosses he cleanses the board of the offending information and it’s frequently like the now missing offender was never there. I know this as it is what happened to me and know others it happened to as well. Bob Birchard and Mike Schlesinger’s mafia keys were pulled (David Shepard was never booted from the mafia, he never joined, never asked to join and was never denied) for very good reason and those happenings and their bootings can still be found on the mafia.

Otherwise, apart from a cinewhiner member or two (also axed for very good and justified reasons one can also find on the site), everyone else who ever joined is still a member, and we still add a few every year, but they have to contact us, let us get to know them if we already don’t, and they have to be sane, have good credentials for joining and use their real names when they post. We never claimed to be a democracy, we are indeed a private club we made for us, our friends, and worthy strangers who may become friends later.

Our methods have actually kept SCM more of a democracy than places like Nitwitvile or little nerd echo chambers like the cinewhiners facebook page, where anyone not towing the party line disappear pretty quickly (Gad, I let Birchard stay on the mafia for several years after I gave up being friends with him, he got pushed out the door because he continued to start pointless arguments that were nothing but trying to get in my face and wouldn’t quit after being warned multiple times, refusing to learn Confucius’s old adage “He who stands on thin ice shouldn’t jump up and down on it”.).

I love that these lonely little folk like AssJazz and the cinewhiners have built up in their tiny little minds this image of me as a fire-breathing demagogue. Who has time to be a demagogue? We’re working to actually research film history, put out more of the goodies you all like to watch and haven’t seen before, and actually have some fun in our lives. Running SCM actually takes up a tiny bit of our time and we keep it that way, and most of that time is spent posting things for everyone to enjoy, not bossing and harassing the members. Unlike Nitwitvile, we are a mafia that doesn’t kill its own, but we stand up to those who try to cause us mischief, and when Nitwitvile tries to cause that for us like Gebby Hayes did pointlessy pouting and showing his own hypocrisy by closing a thread on our product that had no incivility whatsoever and most would had not noticed what we said had he not called attention to it himself, he gets what he deserves and has brought it on himself.

RICHARD M ROBERTS

[Ed Watz]

Posted by me today on Nitrateville:

Re: POLL: National Film Registry group effort for 2025
Post by Ed Watz » Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:59 am:

CharleyChase wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:06 pm
I have to be on the list so I will second Limousine Love

I vote for all the Chase shorts that are included on the Charley Chase at Hal Roach - The Late Silents 1927 Blu-Ray set.
--Ed Watz

[Richard M Roberts]

https://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36933

As usual, don't expect the correct answer on Nitwitvile, or anyone to actually listen to commentaries or even read the production credits or the titles. Mr. Pyle would have learned that it indeed was the British release version of THE WAY OF ALL PANTS if he had bothered to notice the British Board of Film Censors title, which is the actual first thing you see on the print, and if andybenz had read the production credits or listened to the commentary track he would see the print source was me, not the British Film Institute.

As usual, the nitwitvile brain trust neither reads, listens, pays attention or learns anything.

RICHARD M ROBERTS

[William Ferry]

I'm just sitting back, having a good laugh at this thread, enjoying my box of Cracker Jacks (and wondering why there's no little magnifying glass prize inside. When I was a kid, sixty years ago, that prize seemed to be in every fourth box. Not complaining, mind you, just making an observation).

On a side note, I am honored to be in SCM's select company. This is a great site, and one of a VERY few that I visit daily.

[Richard M Roberts]

William, this is exactly the way you should view this whole thread, and I think it is the way most of the normal or reasonably normal folk who read our site would and should look at it, and that probably includes the majority of the population of nitwitvile, however small that population is these days. Notice how actual few ever chime in or rush to the Gebbit’s defense, or how many rush in to defend me, but notice how many read it. That’s because it is mostly just a good old-fashioned flame war usually written on my part to defend ourselves against some ridiculous accusation posted by someone on that sorry little site or once again call attention to the abuses of censorship and free speech the Gebnit has once again put on his place (and occasionally, when someone there says something very, very stupid…….).

And its purpose is partially still a reminder to the Gabbit that tossing me off the site more than a decade ago didn’t do anything, I just moved my words to the place where I can speak much more freely and honestly about the nonsense at nitwitvile and now Gebert can’t touch it. He could ignore it, but you know, I know and he knows he just can’t. It eats at him, and he has to come over and not only read it, but count the words (he seems to have a problem with multiple paragraphs, ah well, complex ideas require in-depth writing and that seems to elude his attention span, but he certainly has to count the words like a vampire has to count sesame seeds).

But most of the reasonably normal folk get the jokes, and it’s just entertainment, because the ones who get the jokes are also the ones who know that none of this really means all that much in the greater scheme of things, it’s still an area of interest that 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of the world gives a rats ass about, all of our hits combined don’t even come close to the average GAME OF THRONES group. They just enjoy the sarcasm and laugh with me making fun of the internerds because they know I’m not talking about them specifically, and they agree the nerd behavior is a bit weird and silly.

Same with my commentary tracks, to most it’s just more of Richard’s funny schtick pointing out some of the stupid things the obsessives worry and whine over, and the ones who love my commentaries know I’m not talking about them. The ones who get upset are the ones whose bulleyes are being hit by my slings and arrows, the ones who don’t laugh at much of anything, especially themselves (and I still find it amazing that there is a minor number of generally humorless people in an area of interest around Film Comedy, but that is indeed the case and we who are humorfull all know them). The “spectrum” or Asperger’s syndrome may be diagnosable for some, though I am loathe to go for that easy trope to explain away their silly behavior (it’s assholeburger syndrome more like).

These are the people who get all hot and bothered about what I say, because it cuts through them like a knife through butter, even if they are hiding behind their silly-ass non-de-plumes that they need to hide behind because they are afraid of being seen for what they really are and being called out on it, or having to take responsibility for anything they say. They crave to prove me a horrible monster because they mistakenly believe that it would invalidate the things I say about them. In the case of groups like the cinewhiners, these nerds are also egged on and revved up by a several unhappy folk whose own sub-par work and behavioral issues keep them out of participating in major projects in our community, or people we just don’t want to have anything to do with who resent it, so they have my picture on the wall as their horrible enemy rather than a mirror that would show them the real problem. They have to fixate on an enemy that excuses their own insufficiencies, they would be fine people who wouldn’t be this way if it were not for me.

These are the type who can’t let their own work speak for itself, they must try to belittle their perceived competition. These people have tried it before, notice it’s all the same names, and what has it done, not much. Our work goes on, it does speak for itself and the quality is undeniable there. If they actually succeeded, they would be succeeding in nothing but stopping the rest of you from “having nice things” as William put it, but their sad attempts to soil it show nothing but that they have no real interest in getting vintage film and film history out to you, it’s all about them and more importantly, there really isn’t much about them at all.

We just keep plugging along, and that annoys them the best, and they really hate us because we give them what they want. We give them lost Charley Chase and other films that they have never seen, have wanted to see for years and wouldn’t have had the opportunity to see if it were not for us and we do it right. They buy it, they have to, they want it, they watch it, and they listen to the commentaries because they have to, they want the information, they know it’s entertaining, yet they dread the moments when I tell the truth about them. Most of us watch these films for fun and enjoyment, they can’t do that because it eats at them that they are not a part of putting it out themselves, even if they haven’t the first clue what to do or what is involved in putting out one of these releases. It’s just good old fashioned jealousy and envy, those who can’t do hate those who can do, and our answer to them is always those who think they can do better from the comfort of their armchair, by all means do.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are all in on the joke, and we do it for your entertainment, I speak my mind because I really don’t give a shit, this is my hobby, this is what I do to relax, and though it would be easy to ignore the trolls, it’s is also fun to tweak them now and again because they get so stirred up into a tizzy. They don’t get the joke because they are the joke, and they don’t even realize that I’m actually doing it for their own good, it’s that old psychology training kicking in, the first turned corner on the road to mental health is getting the patient to confront their issues, but they’re not bright enough to do that, and the patient really has to want to change in the first place.

So enjoy your Crackerjacks William, haven’t had a box of those in years, there’s much better carmel-corn around, and the prizes now are even cheaper crap. We’ll keep the Gebutt twitching and nitwitvile on their toes, the cinewhiners whining, and top priority, we’ll keep bringing you the nice things.


RICHARD M ROBERTS